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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:39:00 -
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Namiene wrote:How can it be fair to the people who actually play the game to have their profits reduced by those who afk farm rat belts and anoms afk for 23 hours every day.
by removing supply/demand from the equation governing bounty payouts it will be fair to everyone.
oh wait, that's already the case. guess we've solved that problem. |

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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:57:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots.
oh ****, the tin man is here.
fun fact: if you're botting, ccp will ban you; they don't care who you are. |

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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:08:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a waste of electrons.
The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots. oh ****, the tin man is here. fun fact: if you're botting, ccp will ban you; they don't care who you are. I was thinking more along the lines of the scarecrow is here but I suppose if you squint he fits the tinman better.
have you ever seen a parent's half arsed attempt at a tin man costume for a school play? basically sending their child to school mummified in tin foil with a watering can helmet?
that's basically the mental image i have when people mention dinsdale. |

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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:11:00 -
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the real issue with 'afk' gameplay is that to remove it, you basically have to make the game ****** and sucky for everyone. eg the hilariously ******** "minigame" idea for miners, and such. ruining a whole activity for everyone just to spite a few people doing something that requires less input than the way you choose to do something... just going to end up with everyone being unhappy. |

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Posted - 2014.05.16 08:30:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I have never seen afk as a problem. nor have i, personally. |

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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:54:00 -
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Veld San wrote:Hi
I play only 3 months, and am not sure what you're smokin'
gotta admit, i got this far then disregarded everything else in your post. |

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Posted - 2014.05.17 07:50:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Quit the war on highsec, it utterly destroys your credibility when every post you make is about nerfing highsec because you want it to be nerfed. if CCP want people to participate in the whole "player driven content" they need to motivate players to go to the areas where that's happening.
which sure as **** isn't some back water high sec system with a level 4 agent. |

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Posted - 2014.05.17 14:21:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I agree with Mike Azariah. Mining needs to be less mind numbingly predictable.
Add Loot Spew to mining 2014.
You have to admit, it would kill botting.
you say that like combat is any different.
both activities are limited to "lock target, hit f1, repeat".
mining isn't the issue; pve requiring nothing but shift clicking punctuated by the occasional f1 is the issue.
also, making an activity less interesting to "combat botting" just encourages botting. |

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Posted - 2014.05.17 16:46:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:La Nariz wrote: Why doesn't targeting the area with the most botting make sense? 85% of botting in highsec.
I still can't find where that number comes from, please provide a link so we can clear this up.
son, do you even fanfest? every year team security bring out lovely graphs about who's botting[although, alliance names aren't shown for reasons, but they still bring out the good ol' pie chart], where they're botting and what types of bots they're running. |

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Posted - 2014.05.17 17:07:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:Can you let me know at about what time the pie chart appears in the fanfest video? no, you're the one that wants to know. |
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:03:00 -
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Sarcasim wrote:If you dont care where the main botter lives then why imply its hi-sec people doing the botting?
because if you spend all your time in high sec botting, you live in high sec. |

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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:17:00 -
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Sarcasim wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Sarcasim wrote:If you dont care where the main botter lives then why imply its hi-sec people doing the botting? because if you spend all your time in high sec botting, you live in high sec. So I have several alts in null...some in low and a couple in hi-sec. Where do I live? What does that make me? A null bear? A care bear?? A pirate maybe? No.......it makes me an Eve player. However; you kids please do carry on with your childish finger pointing and blame game and lame attempts at demonizing a area of space because they dont play the game the way YOU think they should. where do you spend most of your man hours? that is where you live, as you spend most of your man hours there.
where you live has no affiliation with being a "pirate" or a "carebear" as those are activities not locations.
everyone here is an eve player, you know... this being the eve forums and all. |

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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:32:00 -
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Sarcasim wrote:Exactly, so why is botting not an Eve problem instead of these idiots trying to make it out as an evil hi-sec thing?
The people botting could only live in null and run their bot in hi-sec.
Every mammal knows not to shiat in the same place you eat.....even though I imagine some people here would and do eat on the shitter.
nobody said botting wasn't an eve problem. even if it was a high sec only problem, it would still be an eve problem because it's still within eve.
i think you might be confusing the afk gameplay inherent with eve's pve system confused with botting. |

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Posted - 2014.05.17 21:13:00 -
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who's littlefoot? |

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Posted - 2014.05.17 21:17:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Bot^  damn, you caught me. |

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Posted - 2014.05.19 13:30:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:If a null-sec player bots in hi-sec, does the botter count towards the hi-sec or the null-sec total? if he's a null sec player, he won't be in high sec to bot.
your question makes no sense. |

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Posted - 2014.05.19 14:28:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:If a null-sec player bots in hi-sec, does the botter count towards the hi-sec or the null-sec total? if he's a null sec player, he won't be in high sec to bot. your question makes no sense. Ok, I shall take what you say at face value, so a null-sec player who runs level 4 missions in hi-sec is not really a null-sec player then?
obviously not, he's in high sec running level 4 missions. not quite sure how you can be confused about this. |

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Posted - 2014.05.19 14:42:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:If a null-sec player bots in hi-sec, does the botter count towards the hi-sec or the null-sec total? if he's a null sec player, he won't be in high sec to bot. your question makes no sense. Ok, I shall take what you say at face value, so a null-sec player who runs level 4 missions in hi-sec is not really a null-sec player then? obviously not, he's in high sec running level 4 missions. not quite sure how you can be confused about this. I was just curious as many null-sec folk will openly say that they run hi-sec level 4 missions as it is for them, easy risk free isk.
obviously; why wouldn't you go to high sec to make isk when it provides both the best isk/hour and the easiest way to do it? |

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Posted - 2014.05.19 14:57:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dear Dave, so if a null-sec player also runs a botting op in hi-sec he is obviously not a null-sec player ( your post no: 365 ) but if a null-sec player runs missions in hi-sec he is still null-sec player.
How very odd.
if some one spends most of their time in null sec, they're a null sec player. if some one spends most of their time in high sec, they're a high sec player.
where they make their isk is irrelevant. |

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Posted - 2014.05.19 15:07:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I confess that I would not know a bot in the game if one came up and smacked me on the nose.
99% sure the criteria is simply "are they in a mining ship?" if yes, they're a bot. |
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Posted - 2014.05.19 15:58:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I confess that I would not know a bot in the game if one came up and smacked me on the nose.
99% sure the criteria is simply "are they in a mining ship?" if yes, they're a bot. I just hope you do not get a ban for impersonating La Nariz, or James whatever his name is, from the meanie bumping people  i doubt it, with how openly i mock the code people. |

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Posted - 2014.05.19 16:53:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Are you simple or something? if he is, can we call him simon? |

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Posted - 2014.05.19 16:58:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:Well it would appear La Nariz has abandoned this thread, or it's a weekday, and he has a job? |

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Posted - 2014.05.19 17:19:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Xavier Higdon wrote:Well it would appear La Nariz has abandoned this thread, or it's a weekday, and he has a job? True, but the thread is getting a bit overloaded with individuals wishing to push it away from the topic of bots, and onto the topic of me using far too many big words. If La Nariz wants to continue our argument he can always contact me and we can duke it out through Eve mails, in game chat or another thread. I just don't want things to further devolve into a mire of Marsha Mallow saying my posting the word "experience" is rumour mongering, or Ramona complaining about there being too many words on his screen or Lucas Kell needing me to explain that HTFU stands for Harden The **** Up. Really, things are getting way too far off topic and it's going to be difficult to continue the argument when we'd have to wade through 20 of their posts just to see our replies to one another. you're not using big words. you're just typing walls of text and not actually saying anything.
you're doing it now. every single word of your post past the first comma was redundant. |
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